OCS / SISPEC Or Just Be "Man" Rank?

thoreldan SG

The armed forces protects Singapore from external troubles while I keep the streets of Singapore safe from the delinquents and criminals.

捉出去斩了！

Fatum SG

i'm currently undergoing enhanced BMT. i know that my batch is expected to go into command schools after POP.

The thing is that I'm not interested in going into SISPEC or OCS, simply because they're not my cup of tea. I'd rather be a man. Moreover, I've some problems passing IPPT and SOC. (I've not trained myself at all for almost one year since NAPFA, hence I've some problems to even pass my IPPT =.=)

I dun understand why ppl actually aspire to get into these command schs. Is it because of money? or pride? To me, I dun do things for $ if I've no interest in it. And as for pride, well, pride for 2 years, does it really justify the tough training u'll receive in the 6 or 9 months?

They say "pain is temporary, pride is forever" but I thought otherwise. "Pride is only for 2 years".

And of how much use is it for u in your future career as a specialist or an officer? I just dun understand why ppl want to get into command schs. well, unless they're for $, which I dun agree if u've no interest in the job.

now wait a minute ? ..... you have problems passing IPPT and SOC, and you think "my batch is expected to go into command schools" .....

woah ! ... is your father some mini-star or something ? ... are you a super white horse ? ... if not, what makes you think you are going into any command schools at all ? ....

get into the command schools themselves first before you start ruminating on such things, you DON'T CHOOSE to go to command schools ... you are CHOSEN for them ...

and if you can't pass IPPT and SOC, but are dissing and dismissing options that you don't even have ... what does it look like, really ? ... I call it hubris mixed with sour grapes .....

SBS261P SG

depends also… you must also look at your NS cycle and not only the 2 years.

yes your batch is supposedly the one with HIGHER CHANCE of going command school but that hardly means anything, it just means more vacancies. doesn’t mean apr/jul/oct intake cannot go SISPEC / OCS…

as for ippt/soc, it doesn’t matter right? even if you get gold, as long as you indicate that you don’t want to go command school, they won’t force you…

if i have storemen under my QM platoon who can get IPPT gold, i don’t see what the worry is even if you pass IPPT / SOC! or you just trying to make excuse so that when you really not picked to go then you not so lao kui?(,&#8221 Wink (”,)

sounds offending but yeah, tt’s my 2 cents…

Sakuragi86 SG

3sg is just throw sai kang to man.

then just answer his resposiblities to officer.

SingaporeMacross SG

better to be a good man than a screwed up spec.

HO SEI BO SG

just be a man it the most fun

thoreldan SG

actually be a woman is da best....dont need to go thru all this shiat

HO SEI BO SG

actually be a woman is da best....dont need to go thru all this shiat

well its pretty shitty at times but u get to do alot of thing u nvl get to do in ur life its fun

kajagugu SG

i hate commanders who can't lead. i knew i can't lead, so i chose to be a man.

if you feel you can't make it as a commander, please become a man and not a half-past-6 commander to other poor troopers :)

NG QIBO AARON AUBREY SG

leaders are trained

del_co SG

i think its better to be man if you can't lead cuz ultimately you'd suffer as a commander. i know of officers and specs who sign like tons of duties til they ORD. and that is very sad for a measly amount of money. leaders are trained yes, but the training today is very very rushed. for the same amount of things to be covered in the past, a shorter time is given today. many things are rushed and its really hard for cadets to absorb the syllabus. well, as some people told me, the idea is to give the cadets a basic rough idea and the unit will "up" him. i guess that's the whole idea today. i think its a bad idea. the reason that was given for the reduced training time is that our NSF time was reduced to 1 year 10 months, thus the need for a sped up training schedule. well, i think its the price to pay for a shorter NSF cycle.

whether to be a man or not, is really up to you - usually. there are pros and cons. you need to know which one you will most willingly wanna take up. however, if you can't even pass IPPT...i think don't worry about it lah. SOC fail still can go SISPEC or OCS, but if IPPT fail, can go neither. it's a fact of life. be man lah, its really good. still tough, but very simple. very foolproof. anything dunno, just push it to SC. =)

polityka SG

There's also something that you guys should also remember. Generally speaking, your liability doesn't end when you ORD. You still have reservist to do. I just went back for my ICT and there are some "men" who are well, a little older (maybe because they deferred many times). At that point, it's much better to be an officer or at least a spec, then life is much easier.

I know some will say you can downgrade or whatever, but there will be some who can't for whatever reason.

So the question then is whether you still want to do sai kang for 2+weeks a year when you are trying to finish up your ICTs. You will be older, less fit, and might have become used to a nice lifestyle in the corporate world. Last ICT, I ran into some PDF guys digging trenches. Can you imagine yourself doing that at your 9th or 10th ICT?

Also, your ego might also take a bruising if your career has taken off nicely, and have become a fairly senior executive in the civilian world, but you go back into camp and get treated not so well just because you're a "man".

Yes, the expectations are higher if you become an officer or a spec, but there are privileges that come with that. To me, it makes it all worth it. But that's just me.

LazerLordz SG

Think long-term. Don't let your yearning for "stress-free life as an enlisted man" in NS take away what you might learn or be exposed to as a commander, be it a Specialist or an Officer.

Sakuragi86 SG

actually i think man better than clerk sia.

clerk sit in the hq with the CO and RSM.

very stress one.then alot of politcs.

then those man just need to answer to the sgt or OC.

i think the biggest those man talk to is the OC.

but clerk must talk to CO and RSM.

sian sia.

LazerLordz SG

actually i think man better than clerk sia.

clerk sit in the hq with the CO and RSM.

very stress one.then alot of politcs.

then those man just need to answer to the sgt or OC.

i think the biggest those man talk to is the OC.

but clerk must talk to CO and RSM.

sian sia.

Well, treat it as an early learning experience as to how to survive in the corporate world.

cubsarecute SG

lol. I've passed my IPPT in the actual test. and i've selected 'NO' to getting into command schools few days before the actual IPPT already. i'll find out where i'm posted to on 200309. (",)

collinnxk88 SG

by putting 'NO', u will be putting yourself into great trouble when comes to posting; from what i heard from my sgts in my coy, if u say no to command sch, the posting will be kinda fcked up for u as cmpb there might treat u like a soldier who can be 'pushed' here and there when comes to posting.

if u say 'YES', life will be better for u abit when comes to the vocation that u will be assigned to, even if u dont end up in command sch.

tarutaru SG

if u say 'YES', life will be better for u abit when comes to the vocation that u will be assigned to, even if u dont end up in command sch.

I thought regardless what you put, if you are selected for command sch, u'll still be posted there.

SexyChin SG

I thought regardless what you put, if you are selected for command sch, u'll still be posted there.

yes, i agree with this. personal experience.

some things, just cannot siam one.

will4 SG

Go to command school a after becoming sergeant or officer must serve reservist longer.

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